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he was tipped off by an fbi employee a couple weeks ago. he followed up with the fbi to make sure the investigation was ongoing. we're going to hear a lot more about this during the course of the week. remember initially general david petraeus himself was supposed to testify about the benghazi attack in front of a couple of committees in congress, closed-door meetings. now he will not be there, this guy will. this is the michael more rel, acting director of the see ia. back to you guys. martha: that raises so many questions. we'll talk about them this morning. why would general petraeus not testify to an event he was privy to and on his watch? we'll ask michael hayden, the former cia director coming up. we'll talk to kt mcfarland about all this. doug, thank you lawmakers are wonder why they were never informed. senator diian feinstein is asking about the questions that came up. >> i informed my vice chairman and i talked to the director device. this is very hard stuff. >> and are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before
he was tipped off by an fbi employee a couple weeks ago. he followed up with the fbi to make sure the investigation was ongoing. we're going to hear a lot more about this during the course of the week. remember initially general david petraeus himself was supposed to testify about the benghazi attack in front of a couple of committees in congress, closed-door meetings. now he will not be there, this guy will. this is the michael more rel, acting director of the see ia. back to you guys. martha:...
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what is the fbi saying about this? >> well, i think they freely admit that there are no hard and fast rules for when you notify anybody else in the government that a senior intelligence official is having an affair. the general rule, and what their basic policy is, they don't tell anybody. when they're in the middle of a criminal investigation, who they're investigating. whether it's, you know, somebody in the white house or anybody. they just don't blab around town who they're investigating. now, there's a policy question here, obviously, about whether members of the intelligence committee should have been informed. they say there's a potential national security implications. the fbi and the justice department say they determined early on there weren't national security implications, that this was, at its core, not a crime, an affair. and the other thing about this is, that the fbi is sensitive to its own history, about a time when j. edgar hoover shepherded the peccadillos of official washington and parceled these th
what is the fbi saying about this? >> well, i think they freely admit that there are no hard and fast rules for when you notify anybody else in the government that a senior intelligence official is having an affair. the general rule, and what their basic policy is, they don't tell anybody. when they're in the middle of a criminal investigation, who they're investigating. whether it's, you know, somebody in the white house or anybody. they just don't blab around town who they're...
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>> well, it is and fbi investigation, that is continuing. i read both the "post" and the times this morning and it is pretty well laid out, i think. i hate to discuss it, except to say there are a number of things that one has to consider, the first of which was there any kind of national security breach. to date, there was not. and, the fbi has briefed me, now, i actually wish we had been briefed a little bit earlier. so that the full intelligence committee, one of the things i've tried to do, chris, is bring both sides together. so, my vice chairman saxby chambliss and i share material and work together and that is a very important concept. with neither of us knowing ahead of time, all of this, obviously, comes as a big shock. and we are very much able to keep things in a classified setting, at least if you know you can begin to think and then to plan and, of course we have not had that opportunity. we begin our hearings on thursday. this is an inquiry, it's not a single hearing. there will be many different aspects of it. and, you know, o
>> well, it is and fbi investigation, that is continuing. i read both the "post" and the times this morning and it is pretty well laid out, i think. i hate to discuss it, except to say there are a number of things that one has to consider, the first of which was there any kind of national security breach. to date, there was not. and, the fbi has briefed me, now, i actually wish we had been briefed a little bit earlier. so that the full intelligence committee, one of the things...
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the other store is when the fbi knew and the president knew. the time line they have is the president was informed after the election and thursday and that general clapper, the director of national intelligence, found out in a phone call on election day and told the white house on the day after the election. the fbi had been investigating for at least wreaks. >> months. >> i don't know if we are going to learn that's not true. we can deal with the questions. she it said he thought it was a terrorist attack. he went into closed meetings saying it was a video. perhaps he was doing it to protect the cia. i believe is he going to testify on capitol hill compelled by his own sense of duty or a subpoena. i think we are going to hear from him. the time of the election and sex scandal are not really important as much as what happened on the ground in benghazi, was there some kind of coverup to protect the cia and why would mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence committee and dianne feinstein chairman on the senate side not be informed of an on
the other store is when the fbi knew and the president knew. the time line they have is the president was informed after the election and thursday and that general clapper, the director of national intelligence, found out in a phone call on election day and told the white house on the day after the election. the fbi had been investigating for at least wreaks. >> months. >> i don't know if we are going to learn that's not true. we can deal with the questions. she it said he thought...
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the fbi began by investigating whether those e-mails constituted harassment. officials told nbc news. then the bureau subsequently found that petraeus' biographer, paula broadwell, was sending those anonymous e-mails that law enforcement officials had dealt with. the investigation also determined she was having an affair with petraeus. the fbi then used that information from the investigation to uncover more details and obtain a warrant to surveil broadwell's e-mail, according to the "wall street journal." so, in september, officials say the fbi interviewed broadwell, who then admitted the affair. investigators also convinced her to voluntarily surrender her computer, which was found to contain unauthorized classified information. according to officials, on the week of october 28th, the fbi then interviewed general petraeus, who reportedly admitted the affair at the time, but denied providing any classified information to broadwell. then two members of congress say they received a tip about the same investigation in october which was raised with the fbi. offic
the fbi began by investigating whether those e-mails constituted harassment. officials told nbc news. then the bureau subsequently found that petraeus' biographer, paula broadwell, was sending those anonymous e-mails that law enforcement officials had dealt with. the investigation also determined she was having an affair with petraeus. the fbi then used that information from the investigation to uncover more details and obtain a warrant to surveil broadwell's e-mail, according to the "wall...
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the fbi's investigating this. a woman sends some -- first of all, tell us the nature of these e-mails that would prompt an fbi investigation. >> well, here's the situation. the woman, whom we have confirmed was jill kelley who was a married woman in tampa who did some social and wounded warrior work with fort macdill. she complained to a friend of hers in the fbi. that's how this got launched. she knew very well, a close friend who was an fbi agent and said she was getting these anonymous e-mails, more than a dozen e-mails, on two separate accounts. and very confused because she didn't know who they were from, and they were threatening. >> the nature of these e-mails, andrea, did the fbi have any reason to believe that this woman's life was in danger or that perhaps violence might come to her? >> they were -- this agent in tampa referred it to his colleagues at the fbi. so it started as a local or regional fbi investigation in tampa. completely unrelated to david petraeus. the woman did not know that paula broadwe
the fbi's investigating this. a woman sends some -- first of all, tell us the nature of these e-mails that would prompt an fbi investigation. >> well, here's the situation. the woman, whom we have confirmed was jill kelley who was a married woman in tampa who did some social and wounded warrior work with fort macdill. she complained to a friend of hers in the fbi. that's how this got launched. she knew very well, a close friend who was an fbi agent and said she was getting these anonymous...
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after the fbi uncovered his extramarital affair be his buy ago -- biographer paula broadwell. live pictures outside a knob hill food store. this is in alameda. a lot of folks out all night long, the biggest sticking point is the company proposes to eliminate health plan benefits for retirees who qualify for medicare. >>> and caltrans is almost done taking the weight of the roadway off its temporary support structure and having the cables do all the work. the new bridge still set to open. it's right on schedule, sometime late next year. >> i'm going to be so excited when it's done, even more so. it's great to see, but come on, let's get this thing done. it won't be long now. >>> folks we are starting out a little chilly, a couple of clouds out there. and it's going to be a very nice day outside, although these temperatures are going to be running below. average just a bit. numbers by the afternoon running into the 30s and the 40s right now. afternoon we're expecting highs in the 50s. and tomorrow looks to be a little warmer. maybe showers return on friday. >>> look at that. in
after the fbi uncovered his extramarital affair be his buy ago -- biographer paula broadwell. live pictures outside a knob hill food store. this is in alameda. a lot of folks out all night long, the biggest sticking point is the company proposes to eliminate health plan benefits for retirees who qualify for medicare. >>> and caltrans is almost done taking the weight of the roadway off its temporary support structure and having the cables do all the work. the new bridge still set to...
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number two as a steward of the fbi how do we keep the fbi from being embroiled in politics unnecessarily and the calculus here is what's the flip side of this coin? how would this have affected the election, the white house -- >> no, no, no. paula broadwell according to the "wall street journal" had access to classified information on her computer. doesn't that raise red flags? >> i think anybody who has been on the wikileaks website has classified information on their computers. the we is whafts and where did she get it. the fbi investigation was satisfied she didn't get it from general petraeus. that may be a matter between the fbi and paula broadwell. >> general you might have a different opinion. >> if you were -- i mean we saw lots of investigations in the military where the allegations were not proven yet but that the chain of command was made aware that somebody was being looked at for whatever. so to me it's a little surprising as they got into this that somebody didn't tell again clapper that hey, we're looking at general petraeus in this area, we don't think there's anything th
number two as a steward of the fbi how do we keep the fbi from being embroiled in politics unnecessarily and the calculus here is what's the flip side of this coin? how would this have affected the election, the white house -- >> no, no, no. paula broadwell according to the "wall street journal" had access to classified information on her computer. doesn't that raise red flags? >> i think anybody who has been on the wikileaks website has classified information on their...
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me at fbi headquarters. fbi has senior officials embedded throughout cia headquarters and working together in the field. the cia is well aware that if an allegation is made against minimum, whether it's here in the cia or they're somewhere else in the government, that's the fbi's responsibility, and they have the jurisdiction to look at the matter, on visit the matter. this is not based on, you know -- again, the fbi begins its investigation. they have no clue that it's going to lead to someone at the cia, so this is -- the thing about animosity with the cia is in this matter particularly ridiculous. >> david petraeus visit security clearance on cnm.com for more information. >>> still thousands of folks without power. across ten states, recovering from superstorm sandy taking longer, much longer accident than people had hoped. >> god is with us, and we know we're going to have help soon. i trust in our government, you know, we're going to have help soon, and everything is going to be all right. ♪ ♪ we're
me at fbi headquarters. fbi has senior officials embedded throughout cia headquarters and working together in the field. the cia is well aware that if an allegation is made against minimum, whether it's here in the cia or they're somewhere else in the government, that's the fbi's responsibility, and they have the jurisdiction to look at the matter, on visit the matter. this is not based on, you know -- again, the fbi begins its investigation. they have no clue that it's going to lead to someone...
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what we're learning about the woman who alerted the fbi.
what we're learning about the woman who alerted the fbi.
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the fbi launched the investigation who jill kelley, an unpaid social liaison at an air force base in florida, complained about receiving harassing e-mails from petraeus' biographer paula broadwell. agents later discovered broadwell and petraeus were having an affair. eric cantor's spokesperson says the congressman knew about the relationship late last month, but president obama apparently didn't know about it until last thursday, when petraeus offered his resignation. >> this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> seems it's gone on for several months, and now it appears they're saying the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> jill kelley and her husband released a statement last night asking for privacy right now. congress may still eventually call petraeus to answer questions about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, even though he's no longer head of the cia. petraeus was supposed to testify this week in front of the senate intellige
the fbi launched the investigation who jill kelley, an unpaid social liaison at an air force base in florida, complained about receiving harassing e-mails from petraeus' biographer paula broadwell. agents later discovered broadwell and petraeus were having an affair. eric cantor's spokesperson says the congressman knew about the relationship late last month, but president obama apparently didn't know about it until last thursday, when petraeus offered his resignation. >> this is something...
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i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing related to kelly, this becomes the fbi's cyber division is concerned that petraeus's private e-mail is hacked in to. that's why they continue this and the crime they're looking at. this is a red herring about harassment of jill kelly, a private citizen and a social liaison. ludicrous. that's not a predicate. >> do you think they overstepped that? >> go ahead, tom. >> determination would be made that, you know, what's the content of these messages? they would take that to the u.s. attorney's office and determine whether or not this might b
i'm sorry. >> the fbi -- >> no. the fact is based on what we know now, there was no harassment concluded and nothing threatening. no one said the e-mails were threatening. i said -- i think what the point david is trying to make and a legitimate question, who was the underlying predicate that the fbi had with the citizen got an e-mail to open up the preliminary inquiry? i don't think it's clear and becomes not about the threat or the harassment, whatever you want to call this thing...
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broadwell sent the threatening e-mails to her and she was frightened and she went to the fbi. oh, i can't believe it. but that's what it is. >> reporter: that frightened woman, jill kelly, serves as an unpaid, "social liaison" to macdill air force base in tampa. she said in a statement we and our family have been friends with general petraeus and his family over five years. we respect his and his family's privacy and want the same for us and our three children. nbc bay area spoke to house minority leader nancy pelosi at a veteran's day event in san francisco and she down played the scandal. >> we have bigger issues to deal with right now. it's breasting to me that with all of the prospects that we have for resolving the fiscal deficit, the cliff, the new administration, all of that, that this is receiving so much attention. >> reporter: the general is not under investigation, but his departure leaves a void just as congress is beginning hearings in to the deadly september attack on the u.s. consulate and u.s. base in libya that killed four americans including u.s. ambassador a
broadwell sent the threatening e-mails to her and she was frightened and she went to the fbi. oh, i can't believe it. but that's what it is. >> reporter: that frightened woman, jill kelly, serves as an unpaid, "social liaison" to macdill air force base in tampa. she said in a statement we and our family have been friends with general petraeus and his family over five years. we respect his and his family's privacy and want the same for us and our three children. nbc bay area...
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worked with the fbi who knew. i don't think the director of the fbi knew until mid-october or perhaps even later. and certainly the justice -- it's unclear when the justice department was informed. but it is fairly remarkable that in a situation like this that the president and the white house would not be told until, you know, right before his resignation. and certainly i think the mistake that was made was that congress ought to be informed at the same time that the senior people on the national security establishment are told. >> right. particularly when you're talking about the cia director. this is not a low-level resignation we're talking about. or a scandal involving a low-level member of the administration. having said that, richard and oliver, i want to get to you, because the justice points out that it followed protocol. that there was no national security breach as far as they know and there was no criminal wrongdoing because petraeus was a retired general. having said that, congressman peter king spoke
worked with the fbi who knew. i don't think the director of the fbi knew until mid-october or perhaps even later. and certainly the justice -- it's unclear when the justice department was informed. but it is fairly remarkable that in a situation like this that the president and the white house would not be told until, you know, right before his resignation. and certainly i think the mistake that was made was that congress ought to be informed at the same time that the senior people on the...
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of the fbi's revelation. >>> chevron's plans to fix the damaged refinery in richmond is not connected to have a major impact on reducing pollution levels. a corroded pipe was the cause. the "chronicle" reports that chevron will be able to produce new points for ignition technology. chevron says it will improve filtering equipment. company executives say their repairs meet industry standards. some are calling for the best technology available. >>> who do you think has the longest commute in california? california watch is reporting that designation goes to contra costa county. people who live in contra costa county spend an average of 32.8 minutes in their cars every day. in contra costa county, 17% of the people travel an hour or more to get to work. compared to humboldt, the average commute is about 17 minutes. around the state, fewer than one in 10 california residents commute for more than an hour. >>> speaking of commuting, let's check in with sal. many people have the day off for veterans day so i'm thinking it will be lieser -- lighter than unusual. let's take a look at some of
of the fbi's revelation. >>> chevron's plans to fix the damaged refinery in richmond is not connected to have a major impact on reducing pollution levels. a corroded pipe was the cause. the "chronicle" reports that chevron will be able to produce new points for ignition technology. chevron says it will improve filtering equipment. company executives say their repairs meet industry standards. some are calling for the best technology available. >>> who do you think has...
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. >> the affair was uncovered by the fbi. that's right, the fbi, which sometime during the summer investigated harassing e-mails sent to this woman, petraeus family friend jill kelly. that probe determined that the e-mails, which included an admonition to, quote, back off, came from paula broadwell. while combing through broadwell's e-mails they came upon david petraeus. let's stop it here and bring in suzanne -- suzanne kelly in washington, our intelligence correspondent. suzanne, a lot of ground to cover here. we have this video that has surfaced of paula broadwell, last month, speaking at the university of denver and she's speaking here as david petraeus' biographer about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. let's take a listen. >> i don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the cia an annex had taken a couple prisoner and they think the attack on the consulate was an attempt to get the prisoners back. that's still being vetted. >> where did she hear that? did it come from david petraeus and do we k
. >> the affair was uncovered by the fbi. that's right, the fbi, which sometime during the summer investigated harassing e-mails sent to this woman, petraeus family friend jill kelly. that probe determined that the e-mails, which included an admonition to, quote, back off, came from paula broadwell. while combing through broadwell's e-mails they came upon david petraeus. let's stop it here and bring in suzanne -- suzanne kelly in washington, our intelligence correspondent. suzanne, a lot...